Carel Greve, 17441808 (aged 64 years)

Name
Carel /Greve/
Given names
Carel
Surname
Greve
Name
Carel /Greeve/
Given names
Carel
Surname
Greeve
Name
Karel /Greeven/
Given names
Karel
Surname
Greeven
Birth
Baptism
Religion: Nederduits-gereformeerd
Property
Beurs (f 100) voor Carel Greve
August 27, 1757 (aged 13 years)
Varia
Carel Greeve gewond door messteek
December 5, 1758 (aged 14 years)
Witness: Willem Greve (aged 19 years) — elder brother
Residence
Residence
Marriage banns
Religious marriage
Religion: Nederduits-gereformeerd
Residence
Family residence
Family residence
Family residence
Family residence
Family residence
Varia
conflict met Kerkeraad ivm geruchten buitenechtelijk kind bij zijn dienstmeid J.Houtert
March 8, 1767 (aged 22 years)
Proces
Crimineel Proces Carel Greve ter zake van geweld en verkrachting
about May 1767 (aged 22 years)
Property
17701003 Lening f 50 bij Kerkenraad door Carel Greve
October 3, 1770 (aged 26 years)
Occupation
schoolmeester, koster, voorzanger
1772 (aged 27 years)
Occupation
schepen Gestel, Stratum en Strijp
from 1769 to 1773 (aged 28 years)
Note: In diverse akten van de schepenbank genoemd als schepen.
Occupation
schepen van Maarheeze
from 1773 to 1785 (aged 40 years)
Death of a wife
Marriage banns
Religious marriage
Address: in de Cath. kerk
Religion: Nederduits-gereformeerd
Family residence
Address: in 1791: aan de westzijde van de Zoutmarkt by de St Maartensbrug, genaamd Rooster. (alwaar de rooster in de gevel staat)
Property
Family residence
Death
Burial
Address: bijgezet in de kerk
Research task
uitwerken de zaak Greve - Houtert opvragen crimineel procesdossier
December 11, 2022
User: jwbos
Family with parents
father
1784
Death: January 3, 1784Maarheeze
mother
17071784
Birth: before May 22, 1707 Harderwijk
Death: January 19, 1784Maarheeze
Religious marriage Religious marriageMay 9, 1725Hierden, Harderwijk, Gelderland, Nederland
20 months
elder brother
1726
Birth: before December 27, 1726 19 Harderwijk
Death:
3 years
elder sister
1730
Birth: before May 19, 1730 22 Harderwijk
Death:
3 years
elder sister
1733
Birth: before September 16, 1733 26 Harderwijk
Death:
3 years
elder sister
1736
Birth: before April 20, 1736 28 Harderwijk
Death:
23 months
elder brother
17381816
Birth: before March 5, 1738 30 Harderwijk
Death: February 14, 1816Gestel
elder brother
1738
Birth: before March 5, 1738 30 Harderwijk
Death:
21 months
elder brother
1739
Birth: before November 15, 1739 32 Zutphen
Death:
5 years
himself
17441808
Birth: before June 14, 1744 37 Groenlo
Death: before September 8, 1808Breukelen
Family with Pieternella van Braam
himself
17441808
Birth: before June 14, 1744 37 Groenlo
Death: before September 8, 1808Breukelen
wife
17301787
Birth: before June 4, 1730 Bergen op Zoom
Death: before April 28, 1787Maarheeze
Religious marriage Religious marriageJanuary 2, 1763Veldhoven, Veldhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland
10 months
daughter
17631852
Birth: before October 16, 1763 19 33 Valkenswaard
Death: March 3, 1852Dordrecht
15 months
son
17651765
Birth: before January 20, 1765 20 34 Gestel
Death: before March 21, 1765Gestel
16 months
son
17661856
Birth: before May 4, 1766 21 35 Gestel
Death: July 31, 1856Werkendam
2 years
daughter
17681819
Birth: before June 19, 1768 24 38 Gestel
Death: December 15, 1819Hellevoetsluis
20 months
son
17701770
Birth: before February 18, 1770 25 39 Gestel
Death: before March 1, 1770Gestel
Family with Johanna Pieternella Tiesman
himself
17441808
Birth: before June 14, 1744 37 Groenlo
Death: before September 8, 1808Breukelen
wife
1815
Death: August 18, 1815Breukelen-Nijenrode
Religious marriage Religious marriageNovember 23, 1790Utrecht, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland
10 months
son
1791
Birth: before September 21, 1791 47 Utrecht
Death:
17 months
son
17931813
Birth: before February 17, 1793 48 Utrecht
Death: September 29, 1813Gent
2 years
son
17951833
Birth: before April 19, 1795 50 Breukelen
Death: October 12, 1833Delft
Family with Joanna van Houtert
himself
17441808
Birth: before June 14, 1744 37 Groenlo
Death: before September 8, 1808Breukelen
partner
son
1767
Birth: before February 24, 1767 22 Valkenswaard
Death:
daughter
1767
Birth: before February 24, 1767 22 Valkenswaard
Death:
Birth
Baptism
Property
Varia
Residence
Residence
Marriage banns
Religious marriage
Residence
Family residence
Family residence
Family residence
Family residence
Family residence
Varia
Proces
Property
Occupation
Occupation
Marriage banns
Religious marriage
Family residence
Property
Family residence
Death
Burial
Occupation

In diverse akten van de schepenbank genoemd als schepen.

Note

Registratie op 13 juni 1781 te Waalre en Valkenswaard
Geregistreerden
Jan Willem Daniel de Jongh, drossaard van beroep
Z J G de Chastillon, schepen van beroep
Adrianus van der Hell, schepen van beroep
Johan Greve, gepensioneerd luitenant van beroep, echtg. van Helena Wilhelma Ridder
Helena Wilhelma Ridder, echtg. van Johan Greve
Marta de Vries, overleden echtg. van Janbos Hartgers
Janbos Hartgers, wonende te Soerendonk, schoolmeester van beroep, wed. van Marta de Vries
Carel Greve, regerend schepen van beroep, echtg. van Pietronella van Braam
Pietronella van Braam, echtg. van Carel Greve
Hendrik Hertgers, wonende te Soerendonk, schoolmeester van beroep
Hendrik Leenen, wonende te Maarheeze, gerechtsbode van beroep
Jan Leenen, wonende te Maarheeze, gerechtsbode van beroep, echtg. van Josina Poots
Josina Poots, echtg. van Jan Leenen
Henricus Vos, wonende te Maarheeze, commies van beroep, echtg. van Martha toorners
Martha toorners, wonende te Maarheeze, echtg. van Henricus Vos
Wilhelmus Vonk, predikant van beroep
Andries Jonkers, dienstknecht van beroep
Willemijna Jonkers, dienstmaagd van beroep
A S Gijzinck, wonende te Heeze, predikant van beroep
A S Laats, wonende te Budel, predikant van beroep
L Nouhuis, wonende te Oerle, predikant van beroep
Cazijn van Zelm, wonende te Someren, predikant van beroep
J M Brocx, secretaris van beroep

Extra informatie
Soort akte Attestatie

Bronvermelding
Regionaal Historisch Centrum Eindhoven
Regionaal Historisch Centrum Eindhoven, Schepenakten
Index Schepenbank Waalre en Valkenswaard, Eindhoven, archieftoegang 10223, inventaris­num­mer 160, aktenummer 166

Note

RHIC Eindhoven

Oudste gevonden document waarin Carel als schepen wordt genoemd

Beslag door de vorster op de oogst toekomende aan Paulus van den Wittenbour., 13-7-1769
Registratieplaats:
Gestel, Stratum en Strijp
Persoon in RA:

Bloks, Hendrik

Mierlo van, Amandus

Wittenbour van den, Paulus

With de, J

Greve, Carel
Voornaam: Carel
Achternaam: Greve
Beroep: Schepen

Fabri, Johan Hendrik

Losecaat, A
Notabene:
Met afschrift van de volmacht
Soort akte:
Beslaglegging
Toegangsnummer:
10209 Schepenbank Gestel, Stratum en Strijp, 1598-1810
Inventarisnummer:
431 [Aanvraagfuncties niet beschikbaar. ]
Aktenummer:
13
Registratiedatum:
13-7-1769
Trefwoorden:
Klerk
Notaris
Schepenen
Vorsters
laatste wijziging 05-02-2017

Note

Onenigheid met de predikant Willem Vonk, plm 1780. Wegens het doen van 'bespottelijke expressien en uytdrukkingen op den heiligen predikstoel',

Diverse akten gaan over dit onderwerp. Niet verder uitgezocht (ook geen online scans beschikbaar)

Bijvoorbeeld:

door Johan Greve c.s. in handen van de stadhouder Abraham de Jongh, 26-1-1780
Registratieplaats:Maarheeze
Persoon in RA:
Greve, Johan
Greve, H.W. geb. Ridder
Greve, P. geb. v. Braam
Leenen, Hendrik
Leenen, Jan
Poots, Josina
Greve, Carel
Vonck, Willem
Jongh de, Abraham
Schepens, Jacobus
Luijtelaar van, Francis

Notabene: Onenigheid met de Predikant
Soort akte: Eedsaflegging
Toegangsnummer: 10214 Schepenbank Maarheeze, 1602-1810
Inventarisnummer: 50
Aktenummer: 186v
Registratiedatum: 26-1-1780
RHC Eindhoven

Note

Buiten echtelijke relatie. Geweld en verkrachting

Descendants of Carel Greve

  1. Generation 1
    1. Carel Greve, schoolmeester, koster, voorzanger (in 1772), schepen Gestel, Stratum en Strijp (from 1769 to 1773) and schepen van Maarheeze (from 1773 to 1785), son of Johan Greve and Helena Wilhelmina Ridder, was born before June 14, 1744 in Groenlo, Oost Gelre, Gelderland, Nederland and died before September 8, 1808 in Breukelen, Stichtse Vecht, Utrecht, Nederland.

      He married 2 times. The first time he married Pieternella van Braam, daughter of Gillis van Braam and Albertina Adriana van Rijssel, on January 2, 1763 in Veldhoven, Veldhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland. She was born before June 4, 1730 in Bergen op Zoom, Bergen op Zoom, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died before April 28, 1787 in Maarheeze, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

      The second time he married Johanna Pieternella Tiesman on November 23, 1790 in Utrecht, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland. She died on August 18, 1815 in Breukelen-Nijenrode, Stichtse Vecht, Utrecht, Nederland.

      He had a relationship with Joanna van Houtert

      Children of Carel Greve and Pieternella van Braam:

      1. Helena Wilhelma Greve (17631852) - follow 2.1
      2. Pieter Albertus Greve (17651765) - follow 2.2
      3. Johannis Greve (17661856) - follow 2.3
      4. Maria Greve (17681819) - follow 2.4
      5. Jacob Pieter Greve (17701770) - follow 2.5

      Children of Carel Greve and Johanna Pieternella Tiesman:

      1. Carel Pieter Greve (1791) - follow 2.6
      2. Carel Pieter Greve (17931813) - follow 2.7
      3. Pieter Johannes Greve (17951833) - follow 2.8

      Children of Carel Greve and Joanna van Houtert:

      1. Mathias Greve (1767) - follow 2.9
      2. Anna Catharina Greve (1767) - follow 2.10
  2. Generation 2 back to top
    1. Helena Wilhelma Greve, huishoudster (in 1841), daughter of Carel Greve and Pieternella van Braam, was born before October 16, 1763 in Valkenswaard, Valkenswaard, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on March 3, 1852 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

      She married Henricus Poots, son of Jan Antonis Poots and Ariaantje Simons, on June 17, 1787 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland. He was born before October 30, 1757 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on March 9, 1827 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

      Children of Helena Wilhelma Greve and Henricus Poots:

      1. Johannes Poots (17881859) - follow 3.1
      2. Petronella Poots (17911878) - follow 3.2
      3. Adriaantje Poots (17931872) - follow 3.3
      4. Hendrikus Poots (17951862) - follow 3.4
      5. Antonis Jacobus Poots (17981866) - follow 3.5
      6. Peter Johannes Poots (17991805) - follow 3.6
      7. Andries Cornelis Poots (18021885) - follow 3.7
      8. Catharina Helena Poots (18041893) - follow 3.8
      9. Peter Johannes Poots (1808) - follow 3.9
    2. Pieter Albertus Greve, son of Carel Greve and Pieternella van Braam, was born before January 20, 1765 in Gestel, Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died before March 21, 1765 in Gestel, Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

    3. Johannis Greve, collecteur van de Gemeene Lands Middelen, (in 1793) and oud Rijksontvanger (in 1832), son of Carel Greve and Pieternella van Braam, was born before May 4, 1766 in Gestel, Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on July 31, 1856 in Werkendam, Altena, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

      He married Wilhelmina van Kooten on July 7, 1793 in Hagestein, Vijfheerenlanden, Utrecht, Nederland. She was born before February 10, 1771 in Hagestein, Vijfheerenlanden, Utrecht, Nederland and died on December 25, 1832 in Werkendam, Altena, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

    4. Maria Greve, daughter of Carel Greve and Pieternella van Braam, was born before June 19, 1768 in Gestel, Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on December 15, 1819 in Hellevoetsluis, Hellevoetsluis, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

      She married Hendrik Kroph on November 3, 1795 in Utrecht, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland. He was born calculated 1759 in Kessel, Noordrijn-Westfalen, Duitsland and died on December 27, 1845 in Waspik, Waalwijk, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

    5. Jacob Pieter Greve, son of Carel Greve and Pieternella van Braam, was born before February 18, 1770 in Gestel, Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died before March 1, 1770 in Gestel, Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

    6. Carel Pieter Greve, son of Carel Greve and Johanna Pieternella Tiesman, was born before September 21, 1791 in Utrecht, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland.

    7. Carel Pieter Greve, lancier (lansruiter) in 1e regiment de Lanciers de la Garde Imperiale, son of Carel Greve and Johanna Pieternella Tiesman, was born before February 17, 1793 in Utrecht, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland and died on September 29, 1813 in Gent, Provincie Oost-Vlaanderen, Vlaanderen, België.

    8. Pieter Johannes Greve, bakker / koekebakker (in 1815), son of Carel Greve and Johanna Pieternella Tiesman, was born before April 19, 1795 in Breukelen, Stichtse Vecht, Utrecht, Nederland and died on October 12, 1833 in Delft, Delft, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

      He married Maria Johanna Pool on August 9, 1815 in Delft, Delft, Zuid-Holland, Nederland. She was born on October 10, 1779 in Delft, Delft, Zuid-Holland, Nederland and died on April 8, 1854 in Delft, Delft, Zuid-Holland, Nederland at the age of 74.

    9. Mathias Greve, son of Carel Greve and Joanna van Houtert, was born before February 24, 1767 in Valkenswaard, Valkenswaard, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

    10. Anna Catharina Greve, daughter of Carel Greve and Joanna van Houtert, was born before February 24, 1767 in Valkenswaard, Valkenswaard, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

  3. Generation 3 back to top
    1. Johannes Poots, blekersknecht (in 1822), brouwersknecht (in 1840) and kuipersknecht (in 1859), son of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born before December 28, 1788 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on October 17, 1859 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

      He married 2 times. The first time he married Allegonda Peters on May 8, 1822 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland. She was born before February 24, 1793 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on May 20, 1840 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

      The second time he married Johanna van Emmerik on May 12, 1841 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland. She was born on February 6, 1795 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland and died on August 22, 1864 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland at the age of 69.

    2. Petronella Poots, daughter of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born on August 28, 1791 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on April 16, 1878 in Schiedam, Schiedam, Zuid-Holland, Nederland at the age of 86.

      She married 2 times. The first time she married Huibert Schellenbach on October 1, 1817 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland. He was born on September 17, 1793 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland and died on February 19, 1844 in Ommerschans, Ommen, Overijssel, Nederland at the age of 50.

      The second time she married Arent Timmermans on September 3, 1851 in Schiedam, Schiedam, Zuid-Holland, Nederland. He was born on February 28, 1802 in Schiedam, Schiedam, Zuid-Holland, Nederland and died on November 15, 1871 in Schiedam, Schiedam, Zuid-Holland, Nederland at the age of 69.

    3. Adriaantje Poots, landbouwster (in 1837), daughter of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born before June 16, 1793 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on March 11, 1872 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

      She married 2 times. The first time she married Peter Stoffels, son of Stoffel Peter Stoffels and Hendrina Wouters, on December 20, 1818 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland. He was born before June 29, 1783 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on April 24, 1831 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

      The second time she married Henricus Kloosterman on December 9, 1837 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland. He was born on January 24, 1795 in Delfshaven, Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland, Nederland and died on January 29, 1866 in Delfshaven, Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland, Nederland at the age of 71.

    4. Hendrikus Poots, brouwersknecht/bierbrouwer/bierbrouwersknecht (in 1819), son of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born before March 15, 1795 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on September 1, 1862 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

      He married Helena Catharina Oijen (third cousin), daughter of Baltus Jan Ojen and Anna Maria Poots, on June 16, 1819 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland. She was born before November 15, 1783 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on February 9, 1861 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

    5. Antonis Jacobus Poots, brouwersknecht, son of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born before February 4, 1798 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on March 15, 1866 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland.

      He married Helena Cornelia van Erven (third cousin), daughter of Gijsbert van Erven and Catharina Ojen, on July 14, 1819 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland. She was born on October 31, 1801 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland and died on December 30, 1865 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland at the age of 64.

      Children of Antonis Jacobus Poots and Helena Cornelia van Erven:

      1. Catharina Poots (18211821) - follow 4.1
      2. Catharina Poots (18331899) - follow 4.2
    6. Peter Johannes Poots, son of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born before October 13, 1799 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on January 11, 1805 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

    7. Andries Cornelis Poots, son of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born on March 28, 1802 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on November 30, 1885 in Oude-Tonge, Goeree-Overflakkee, Zuid-Holland, Nederland at the age of 83.

      He married Jannigje Dubbeldam on May 3, 1826 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland. She was born on January 12, 1795 in Lage Zwaluwe, Drimmelen, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on December 5, 1870 in Dordrecht, Dordrecht, Zuid-Holland, Nederland at the age of 75.

    8. Catharina Helena Poots, landbouwster (in 1829), daughter of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born before November 18, 1804 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on September 25, 1893 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

      She married Martinus Leonardus Verhoeven on July 30, 1829 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland. He was born before August 29, 1802 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland and died on June 10, 1889 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

    9. Peter Johannes Poots, son of Henricus Poots and Helena Wilhelma Greve, was born before June 5, 1808 in Budel, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

Ancestors of Carel Greve

  1. Generation 1
    1. Carel Greve, schoolmeester, koster, voorzanger (in 1772), schepen Gestel, Stratum en Strijp (from 1769 to 1773) and schepen van Maarheeze (from 1773 to 1785), son of Johan Greve and Helena Wilhelmina Ridder, was born before June 14, 1744 in Groenlo, Oost Gelre, Gelderland, Nederland and died before September 8, 1808 in Breukelen, Stichtse Vecht, Utrecht, Nederland.

  2. Generation 2 back to top
      2 of 2 possible ancestors (100% complete).
    1. Johan Greve, gepensioneerd premier luitenant ten dienste deser land (in 1754). He died on January 3, 1784 in Maarheeze, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

    2. Helena Wilhelmina Ridder, daughter of Lambert Ridder and Charlotta Susanna Colterman, was born before May 22, 1707 in Harderwijk, Harderwijk, Gelderland, Nederland and died on January 19, 1784 in Maarheeze, Cranendonck, Noord-Brabant, Nederland.

  3. Generation 3 back to top
      2 of 4 possible ancestors (50% complete).
    1. Lambert Ridder, muntmeester, muntmeester van Gelderland, muntmeester van het Vorstendom Gelre en Graafschaps Zutphen (from 1694 to 1714), was born in Kampen, Kampen, Overijssel, Nederland and died before February 12, 1714 in Harderwijk, Harderwijk, Gelderland, Nederland.

    2. Charlotta Susanna Colterman, daughter of Daniel Colterman and Elisabeth de la Haije, was born in Haarlem, Haarlem, Noord-Holland, Nederland and died on March 15, 1725 in Harderwijk, Harderwijk, Gelderland, Nederland.